Having been back playing for about a month now and enjoying working my way through SoD I've started to feel like I really need 3 accounts to get some of the best XP/Loot missions available to me (eg MMs/Brells Arena). Getting a PuG is sadly not much of an option.
The question is, what class? I currently have a druid (level 85) and a Bard that I've been leveling up (currently level 72 with around 600AAs). I've been coping in SoD pretty well in tiers 1 and 2, I get the feeling my tank might start to struggle in Tier 3 so perhaps I should look at a war/shd/pal to help on that front although that might leave my DPS a little low. I've seen mage pets tanking pretty reliably even in underfoot, so perhaps that might be a better way to go or is that only possible with raid level pet focus and thousands of AAs?
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I would consider a mage yes. Mage pet at 81st level can tank pretty well. You can get a good pet focus from boomerang. EM4 if I remember correctly.
If you are only interested in the pet for tanking then you can just get all the pet aa but I would also recommend getting the nuke enhancing aa and SCS as an absolute necessity.
If you had 4 accounts I would suggest a shaman and either a warrior or mage.
Wabb
If you are only interested in the pet for tanking then you can just get all the pet aa but I would also recommend getting the nuke enhancing aa and SCS as an absolute necessity.
If you had 4 accounts I would suggest a shaman and either a warrior or mage.
Wabb
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Cheers Wabb, I think I'll work on a mage for a while, its much easier for me to PL a mage than a tank class with no easy AE damage. I guess maybe I would be better served having a shaman rather than a druid, but thats always been my main class. Everything I read about druids seems quite negtive since I came back, the druid forums are empty, theres next to nothing on the boards since the release of underfoot.
Also, I dont really want to pay for 4 accounts, thats £120 just for the underfoot expansion alone, to be honest, I'd rather not have 3 but its a struggle to find groups for a lot of missions, and a few of them are starting to need 3 real players.
Also, I dont really want to pay for 4 accounts, thats £120 just for the underfoot expansion alone, to be honest, I'd rather not have 3 but its a struggle to find groups for a lot of missions, and a few of them are starting to need 3 real players.
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OMG Druid mage is a mental pulling combination.
Any zone pretty much where snare and coh both work is an awesome pulling tool.
Any zone pretty much where snare and coh both work is an awesome pulling tool.
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Agreed, but one of the accounts is a bard so pulling should never really be an issue, although the amount of times I've seen them dead in the past I'm not sure they are really made for pulling 
There are a couple of advantages of having the druid around instead of a shaman, easier travelling to zones and some useful atk/ac debuffs. But I then have to rely on bard slow and loose out stat buffs and and probably some DPS. I dont know exactly how shaman and druid dps compares anymore, druids used to be slightly higher, but it seems DoTs have really been improved since last I played and shaman were always better at that. I've seen some pretty incredible DoT damage since returning from shaman and necros, I dont yet have all the necessary AA's/Spells to see what druids can do now in terms of DD damage.
Druid healing seems pretty good now, definitely bigger numbers than I've seen for shamen although no HoT of any kind. Did shamen get a promised heal? I've found that to be one of the best new spells I've had for a long time.
There are a couple of advantages of having the druid around instead of a shaman, easier travelling to zones and some useful atk/ac debuffs. But I then have to rely on bard slow and loose out stat buffs and and probably some DPS. I dont know exactly how shaman and druid dps compares anymore, druids used to be slightly higher, but it seems DoTs have really been improved since last I played and shaman were always better at that. I've seen some pretty incredible DoT damage since returning from shaman and necros, I dont yet have all the necessary AA's/Spells to see what druids can do now in terms of DD damage.
Druid healing seems pretty good now, definitely bigger numbers than I've seen for shamen although no HoT of any kind. Did shamen get a promised heal? I've found that to be one of the best new spells I've had for a long time.
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Hi Kara!
I would hydra Giza (Bard), Suretass (druid) and Shoryu (Pally) sometimes and it was a fantastic combo, I could lock agro with the pally easily and group heal if ever something added and it went onto the druid, which is a little more anoying when playing multibox. I sometimes used to add Shoryu's Shaman as well but it wasn't really needed unless I was doing things that hit really hard so he was mainly a buff bitch. More often if I had space for a 4th I could run my monk as even though a twink, she could put out some great dps and if things got hectic I could just FD her so I didnt have to worry. I could box this combo and stack pulls in camp for hours with very little risk, bard can park pull and get back on the tanked mob, pally just switches target and stuns and you are all set.
I am sure the mage pet is great and if it works for you then go for that. I suspect the pally would be a better rounded group but then of course you have a far more gear dependant tank so a twink may take far longer to get up to spec and even then may not take the hits as well as the pet.
I would hydra Giza (Bard), Suretass (druid) and Shoryu (Pally) sometimes and it was a fantastic combo, I could lock agro with the pally easily and group heal if ever something added and it went onto the druid, which is a little more anoying when playing multibox. I sometimes used to add Shoryu's Shaman as well but it wasn't really needed unless I was doing things that hit really hard so he was mainly a buff bitch. More often if I had space for a 4th I could run my monk as even though a twink, she could put out some great dps and if things got hectic I could just FD her so I didnt have to worry. I could box this combo and stack pulls in camp for hours with very little risk, bard can park pull and get back on the tanked mob, pally just switches target and stuns and you are all set.
I am sure the mage pet is great and if it works for you then go for that. I suspect the pally would be a better rounded group but then of course you have a far more gear dependant tank so a twink may take far longer to get up to spec and even then may not take the hits as well as the pet.
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Hows it going Geeza, I've not seen you around the last couple of times I've been back playing.
I've started leveling up the mage, quite a lot of tanks at the moment (even those in good group gear) are struggling to tank underfoot named mobs, which is my eventual aim. The mage is currently level 62/3 with around 400AAs, doesnt take long to damage shield kill things nowadays.
I'm working my way through SoD at the moment, I'm enjoying playing through this more than either of the previous 2 expansions. My tier 3 merc tank is capable of tanking named mobs in FoS most of which are upgrades to my old raid gear, hopefully ill be able to work through the whole expasion at a group level.
I've started leveling up the mage, quite a lot of tanks at the moment (even those in good group gear) are struggling to tank underfoot named mobs, which is my eventual aim. The mage is currently level 62/3 with around 400AAs, doesnt take long to damage shield kill things nowadays.
I'm working my way through SoD at the moment, I'm enjoying playing through this more than either of the previous 2 expansions. My tier 3 merc tank is capable of tanking named mobs in FoS most of which are upgrades to my old raid gear, hopefully ill be able to work through the whole expasion at a group level.
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Another quick question
Where do people PL their alts after griegs? I've been damage shield killing there for a while but the xp starts to slow down quite a lot mid 60s. I had the same problem when I was leveling my bard and never really found a good place for the high 60s low 70s and the ~500AAs that involves.
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Where do people PL their alts after griegs? I've been damage shield killing there for a while but the xp starts to slow down quite a lot mid 60s. I had the same problem when I was leveling my bard and never really found a good place for the high 60s low 70s and the ~500AAs that involves.
If its secret information send me a PM, and I promise not to tell anyone
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I dio the Fendan tasks for my alts in DSH. there are 6 tasks you can get and at that level you will get a good 15+ aa from all the killing and hailing. Takes maybe an hour or more. It's pretty good.
I also go to Beza if it's pure pling. I can still get my bard 10-12 aa in a single lod burn for him and he's now god 900 aa.
I also go to Beza if it's pure pling. I can still get my bard 10-12 aa in a single lod burn for him and he's now god 900 aa.
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Am I right in thinking pet tanking only works if theres noone else in melee range? I remember there being something about aggro holding with charmed pets, but I cant remember quite how it works with a permanant pet.
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Mobs will ALWAYS go for a pc over a pet so the only way to hold aggro with a pet is for no one to go into melee range.
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lvl 60 to lvl 70-71 in crypt of decay that where i did lvl up my own mage .. its insane easy xp
else i would say MG , valde , for PL , beza works too but gonna need next lvl of air pet i guess
but also most of the dodh instance are crap easy today and its fine XP up to around lvl 70ish iirc
good to see your around again
/yugure
else i would say MG , valde , for PL , beza works too but gonna need next lvl of air pet i guess
but also most of the dodh instance are crap easy today and its fine XP up to around lvl 70ish iirc
good to see your around again
/yugure
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The mage is now up to levl 67 with just under 600AAs. Ive been playing around in WoS and KT to collect spells, I cant easly damage shield down a big group of mobs here so xp is slower. Ill probably finish off up to about 650AA to get a good chunk of the DD focus and Pet AAs then level up to around 80 to start doing those ancient MMs.
With lesson running, Greigs as slowed to about 2-3AA per pull (a pull being about 25 mobs) down from almost 9-10 per pull in the early 50s with a lower AA tally. Given the time it takes to gather than many mobs and damage shield them to death, its not really much more efficient than pulling singles anymore.
With lesson running, Greigs as slowed to about 2-3AA per pull (a pull being about 25 mobs) down from almost 9-10 per pull in the early 50s with a lower AA tally. Given the time it takes to gather than many mobs and damage shield them to death, its not really much more efficient than pulling singles anymore.